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CBS
Nov 6, 2012 5:00am PST
the california voters. >> here we go again. could see some more records set in the bay area but some major changes are coming our way. we'll talk about that coming up. >> if you are commuting through the dublin interchange, everything looks good so far. we still have overnight roadwork. we'll thank you you about that coming up. >>> good morning, it's tuesday, november 6. i'm michelle griego. >> hi, everybody. i'm frank mallicoat. it is 5:00 which means it's 8:00 back east. and voting has started in some states today for the presidential election. >> and here in california, polls will open two hours from now. they will stay open until 8:00 tonight. president obama finished campaigning yesterday but mitt romney is heading to ohio and pennsylvania for one more day on the campaign trail and we have live team coverage on local and national voting. bigad shaban is in chicago, president obama's home city. bigad. >> reporter: the president's return here to chicago comes after two days of intense campaigning in the battleground states of ohio, florida, wisconsin, new hampshire and colorado. his tou
CBS
Nov 20, 2012 6:00pm PST
to california's victim compensation program. >> it's when children and youth access treatment services and supportive services they get better. and the earlier that we reach these children, the better it is. >> all services are free and confidential and they are available in several languages. >>> a house cleaner is accused of stealing from bay area homeowners who hired her. palo alto police say martha quintero ramirez stole things including a wedding ring, cash and prescription drugs from at least two homes that she cleans. police say that anyone who hired the suspect should check to see if they are missing anything. >>> from jaywalking to drinking in public, a city in the north bay is cracking down on minor crime. police there made dozens of misdemeanor arrests in the past month alone. cbs 5 reporter don ford on the real reason behind the quality of life initiative. >> reporter: san rafael's small town atmosphere is looking like big city streets these days. >> marin is a good place to be homeless. they take care of you. we eat here. we sit at the church. >> reporter: and residents li
KRON
Nov 20, 2012 4:00am PST
at satellite and radar the wet weather approaching the bay area and parts of northern california. we have not seen sprinkles just yet. we have cloud cover associated with the system and the wins will pick up. your temperature is 58 in richmond. 60 in oakland. . we will see a mix of clouds, rain, wins as well. 64 in sunnyvale. fairfield at 65. six and san leandro. a cooler day for downtown san francisco 64 degrees. low 60s cloudy conditions wet weather for petaluma and the bottle. daly city at 62 degrees. your kron 4 7 day around the bay forecast shows drier weather as we pushed in closer to thanksgiving. that will be a sunny one. temperatures in the mid to upper 60s. it will continue with warmer weather mild weather for this time of year as we transition into the weekend. i will have more on your forecast coming up in a bit. >> as we take it to the traffic center we have a new accident with injuries north bound 880 at marina boulevard. expect delays other than that traffic is quiet. the bay bridge toll plaza nice and easy conditions. the metering lights are not active we are seeing top sp
FOX
Nov 30, 2012 5:00am PST
may find out if same sex couples here in california will once again be able to get married legally. ktvu alison burns in our washington, d.c. newsroom to tell us what is at stake at the u.s. supreme court. >> reporter: some people are calling this one of the most significant issues ever before the court. can the government prohibit people from getting married? the justices will meet behind closed doors today to decide if they will take up several challenges to gay marriage laws including california's ban on gay marriage proposition eight. same sex marriage supporters many of them are hoping court will let a lower court decision stand that overturned prop 8. san francisco city attorney dennis tells us if that happens couples could marry almost immediately. >> we want to be prepared if marriages do start to number one have staff on hand to perform marriages because there could be crowds. and number two from public safety per speck tiff. >> the justices will also announce if they will consider whether same sex marriage deserves equal treatment under federal law and if the governments
KRON
Nov 6, 2012 4:00am PST
aim reporting. >> closer to home the future of education funding in california would put to voters today. two propositions on the state ballot and to give more money to education through temporary tax increase. one measure is proposition 38 vs tax which has the backing of the other. opposition 30 fails it will force an additional $6 billion cut triggering massive cuts to education. 4.5 from cape through eight education. 500 million cut to public universities which will lead to fewer class offerings and the possibility of tuition increases. >> proposition 38 the competing bill is looking to raise money for education plan temporary income tax hike. you cannot vote yes for both of you like. proposition 30 does began pumping money into the educational system leave it. >> measure and will place a one penny per ounce tax on sugary drinks. tricks like soda and sports drinks. basically any beverage that contains a caloric sweetener. it would not apply to 100 percent juice drinks nor honestly know. same-sex marriages on the ballot in several states. voters in maine and maryland and washingt
KRON
Nov 29, 2012 5:00pm PST
oakland haaziq madyun kron4news >> the fate of same-sex marriage in california -- could be decided soon. the supreme court just hours away from deciding on whether or not to get involved. tonight kron-4 is exploring the possible outcomes -- at 5-30. >>catherine: but first, it's a power-lunch at the white house. president obama - meeting with his former rival mitt romney. >> and --- 49-ers quarterback alex smith -- talking for the first time about being benched. you don't want to miss what smith had to say about colin kaepernick taking his job because of an injury. the news continues next. ♪ secondhand smoke affects everyone's health. it's not just irritating. it can cause heart disease and even death. speak up about secondhand smoke. your health and the health of your family depend on it. >> meeting with his former rival mitt romney. mitt romney had lunch today with the man who defeated him in the presidential race. it was a private meeting - but the white house released this photo. very few details were released - but we're told that the president and romney talked about a
ABC
Nov 17, 2012 5:00am PST
of luck. he was arrested last night at the airport. he was on his way home in southern california. we are told he took off his watch and put it in a bin with his carry i don't know and covered in with coat. >> the watch had on it a toggle switch, a series of fuses, a series of wires protruding from it, a circuit board. >> the alameda county sheriff's department said even though he was not in possess eggs of explosives, the bomb squad determined he had what was needed to make a timing device for a bomb. and his boots were two sizes too big and stuffed with layers of in soles, just like the shoe bomber, richard read. >> he had what appeared to be a homemade cavity in there. >> an area where things could be stashed. and his shirt was military style. it was what soldiers can use to stop the bleeding it if their arm is injured. and police want to find out what was really going on. nelson said there is always the concern that this could have been a dry run. in the newsroom, abc7 news. >>> a group of nudists plan to protest in san francisco today hoping to convince supervisors to vote agains
FOX
Nov 20, 2012 7:00am PST
about completing the requirements. >>> time is 7:11. terrorists in california, what four men who are allegedly connected to al qaeda were accused of planning. >>> also, a landmark auction. how things went during california's first sale of pollution permits as part of the fight against greenhouse gases. >>> cloudy skies, rain, wind, light. the front will be here by this evening department will an gray, windy day with rain developing. some of that will be heavy by tonight. >>> four southern california men have been charged with plotting to kill americans and destroy u.s. targets overseas. the fbi says the men planned on carrying out their attacks by joining al qaeda and the taliban. one of the men served in the u.s. air force. they were arrested for plotting to bomb u.s. military bases and government facilities. the fbi says the men had planned to depart this month to carry out plots in afghanistan. >>> 7:14. the united states now expanding its involvement in the middle east crisis. as ktvu's alison burns reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom, secretary of state, hillary clint
KRON
Nov 6, 2012 7:00am PST
and not in california for the last 15 to 20 minutes. the race is said and done in large part because that is in some e- mail in ballots as well. >> that is one of the interest in things that is why you cannot wait too long to actually put your campaign in gear. people more and more are going to absentee. two reasons. is much more convenient. to in a state like california people like to do other things. this is on of election day. we like to go out and part of the voting machines for republican and democrat is put your vote in now and then get going and call out on a g old tv weather is a nevada arizona or people are driving and flying to the east coast. a good number of people are not in the states that are campaigning elsewhere. >> you say that there are some things that people will be voting on today that did not get as much attention as you would like to highlight. >> from someone who used to be a local elected officials there are racists where people only care about these. yes there is a big presidential race. there is a good universal people for whom there are things on the ballot for themselves
ABC
Nov 20, 2012 5:00am PST
is asking a federal court for a six month extension on an order to lower california's inmate population by 34,000 over two years. the deadline is next june. the state has been sending low level felons to county jail but says it won't be able to meet that requirement without releasing some prisoners early that could pose a danger to the community. >>> san francisco board of supervisors set to decide long running argument over the issue of free muni fares for low income youth. the commission has awarded more than six million dollars to help implement such a program, some supervisors say the money would be better spent towards maintaining muni's fleet. the others support free muni for youth many transportation chief recommending spending part of that hone for the free program between february and june and again next fall and the rest of the money for muni maintenance and improvement. supervisors are expected to vote on proposed ordinance that would amen building code to allow construction -- to amend building code to allow construction of the tiniest apartments in the country, that vote wa
ABC
Nov 27, 2012 4:00pm PST
and sanlta clara counties, information taken from california cancer registry, compiling data between 2000 and 2008. researchers don't know why these areas have high rates but information may help them later. >> i think) that having some data, you know empowers you to make progress. >> they're about 27,000 new cases of breast cancer in california every year. in marin county, abc 7 news. >> still ahead, apple issues a pink slip to the man in charge of the iphone mapping system. >> we'll have that, plus why kentucky fried chicken is writing a check for county autos more trouble for the former elmo puppeteer. >> and later a first for the amgen tour of california. cities to host announced today. >> taking a look outside right now at the skyway, you can see it's easy going for drivers heading south. but for drivers there on the lefthand side of the screen >>> more legal trouble today for the former creative force between sesame street's elmo. a lawsuit accused him of trolling gay telephone chat lines looking to meet under aged boys for sex. the plaintiff was 16 when he met clash, claiming clash
NBC
Nov 6, 2012 6:00am PST
." >> thank you, bob. >>> coming up, decision 2012. california's future is in your hands today. expert analysis on all the key issues, plus, a look at voter turnout and how decisions made by a few could affect us all. >>> which candidates does wall street prefer? that and netflix takes a poison pill. we'll look at business. >>> and, yes, we all had our fun and now we're on the hook. got to pay the piper for that cost. we'll tell you how much taxpayer money is going there to pay off the giants world series victory parade, just ahead. ♪ [ female announcer ] nature exists on the grandest scale... ♪ ...and in the tiniest details. ♪ and sometimes both. nature valley granola thins pack the big taste of granola and dark chocolate into one perfect square, under 100 calories. nature valley granola thins. nature at its most delicious. >>> decision 2012 is yours on this election day. shots of this morning as vice president joe biden is out there casting his ballots in wilmington, delaware. getting the job done. we also have brand-new video of mitt romney. he is casting his ballot just momen
ABC
Nov 12, 2012 6:00am PST
stores, bel air markets and nob hill foods in california and nevada. stay with abc7 morning news coming up amy hollyfield will buy the latest. >>> police in union city investigating the death of a money whose body was found in a trash bin a woman discovered the -- the injured man while taking out her garbage yesterday morning she called authorities who rushed him to a hospital where he died. police are pursuing active leads. >>> san francisco police still looking for a man they say tried to ram an officer with a car police attempted to stop the man yesterday after he was suspected of breaking into a vehicle. he ran into a construct site after getting out of his car police dog joined the search for the man in the building at third street, officers surrounded the building for a short time as well. >>> family in monterey county hopes you can help them fan a missing woman who suffers from alzheimer's. -- them find a miss woman who suffers from alzheimer's disease she was last seen 2:45 thursday afternoon he is 5'6, weighs 220 pounds. police say she was last seen driving a white 20 lexus gs.
KRON
Nov 12, 2012 4:00am PST
northwest. it was the parts of northern california. it started to break apart we could see moisture around santa rosa and the locations north of that. a lot of clout cover associated with that we could see rain jobs as well. sunshine mild conditions pretty much everywhere else. futurecast 4 predicts by 12:00 blue on your screen indicates everyone in the '50s. we will squeeze out some 60s in the afternoon highs. better tonight interest dropped back down to the 50's and 40's. >> here's a look at your afternoon highs 64 for oakland. 63 in hayward. livermore climbing to 65. upper 50s in daly city. your kron 4 7 day around the bay forecast shows into the rest of the week. it will be dry until potentially thursday. we will start to see more clouds associated with another weather system that could produce light rain. chance of wet weather for saturday. it in creases heavier rain expected as we head into sunday. more details coming up. >> the bay bridge toll plaza looks fine out oakland into the city. san mateo drive 12 minutes from end to end. south bound 101 the golden gate bridge no problems. i
FOX
Nov 10, 2012 7:00am PST
of the names is former southern california congresswoman, jane harmon. she is a democrat who was a ranking member of the house intelligence committee. she resigned from her post last year to be head of the woodrow wilson center. >> a woman who mosted comments about the president said she is not a racist. after the election the 22-year- old posted on her facebook page a racial slur and the words, maybe he will get assassinated this term. she delete that message and later said she was stating her opinion. her employer has fired her. the case has been turned over to the secret service. >>> some are now returning to restore the jersey shore nearly two weeks after sandy, those who used to live in the area got to return home for the first time yesterday. they were taken by bus to their former homes in seaside heights where they had an hour to pack what they could. some of them say they were not prepared for what they saw. >> you have a list and you are prepared to get what you want but you -- you spend like -- 15 minutes just devastated, just trying to look to see what's on the floor. >> repor
KRON
Nov 8, 2012 7:00am PST
no indication yet from the california highway patrol when they will get this crash cleared. >> we have rain on the way of but you would not looking outside. a crystal clear start to the morning the chilly out there and we will see an increasing cloud cover this afternoon and you'll certainly need an umbrella. tomorrow we have the possibility for scattered showers into the morning hours with dryer by the afternoon. overall dry conditions into the weekend the temperatures are still unseasonably cool. satellite and radar we're tracking the rainy can see is pushing his way out of eureka and and the ride in the bay area. how lucky to the tiny with future cast four coming up in just a bit. >> new this morning and hotel in burlingame. everyone is back in this morning by the people that stayed there had to get out early in the morning because of a carbon monoxide leak. the san mateo county fire department showed up to handle this at and so boulevard in burlingame. one person did have to go to hospital with what they believe was the of to poisoning. will tran is live on the scene and he will have mo
NBC
Nov 20, 2012 6:00am PST
was able to catch the suspect. >>> the fbi will talk more about four men from southern california now in custody facing terrorism charges. the fbi says the men were planning an attack on americans that timed to join al qaeda and the taliban. coming up, we'll take you live to los angeles for a live report. that's coming up in about 30 minutes. >>> right now we have a big-time story happening right here in the silicon valley area. mouths just wide open as the business world looking at hewlett-packard saying it was tricked to the tune of nearly $9 billion. >> scott mcgrew says hp's purchase of autonomy officially a disaster. >> a disaster. it was a mess, laura, we knew that. we can move the peg up now to disaster. hewlett-packard paid $11 billion for the british company autonomy. it didn't go well from the start. this morning, though, in its routine quarterly report, hp dropped the bombshell that autonomy was not telling the truth in its books at the time. it's hard to think of anything worse for hp other than maybe their headquarters burning down this morning. we expected the company to
ABC
Nov 20, 2012 4:00pm PST
. sources say any announcement won't come until tomorrow. >> four men with ties to southern california facingo;[÷z% terroorism choorjz they're accused of trying to kill americans we'll have more on that spot coming up on abc 7 news at 5:00. >> a pilot of a small plane walked away with miner injuries after crashing near san rafael airport. fire officials tell us the pilot had trouble this morning trying to turn back, he managed to land in a marsh about a mile away. up to 50 gallons of fuel spilled and crews are cleaning that up. >> pittsburgh city crews have restored water service after an overnight water main break affected more than a dozen homes. people lost water service around midnight. >> in redwood city a handful of homes lost service because of a broken main near the government center, firefighters pumped out water and residents were able to return home. >> and workers expect to find a broken road by story road. 24 cher customers have been out water this morning. the water company says four other smaller breaks were report add cross the city. >> happening now in oakland a 24 ho
CBS
Nov 14, 2012 5:00pm PST
deficit. california now faces a much smaller deficit of $1.9 billion through the end of next fiscal year which is next july. could even see surpluses by 2014. compare that to the almost $16 billion deficit state lawmakers faced earlier this year. >> we have to pay down our debt. borrow from the schools, we borrow from the redevelopment funds, governor schwarzenegger's economic recovery bond, we borrowed from the people and local governments. and we have it pay that back. -- and we have to pay that back. >> a lot of revenue the state will see comes from proposition 30 which was approved by the voters. >>> nancy pelosi is staying put. the san francisco democrat said today she plans to remain in her role as house minority leader. but her colleagues' cheers turned to boos when a reporter put this question to the 72- year-old. >> said you would stay own prohibiting younger leadership from moving forward. >> so you're suggesting that everybody step aside? >> no, i'm simply saying that it delays younger leadership from moving forward in the house. >> let's for a moment honor it as a legitimate
KRON
Nov 1, 2012 7:00am PDT
opened yesterday. >> the diversity of southern california for people were shot on campus and around 1145 after a halloween party. there about a hundred students gathered for this party that was hosted by campus student organization. four people were shot and one person is in critical condition. all four are in hospital. two people were taken into custody, the people that were shot as those of people taken into custody were not students. classes will be resuming at you as see this morning. >> to children in santa rosa were struck in hurt by a car while tracker trading last night. a tenure a boy and a four year-old girl were walking in a crosswalk just ahead of their parents when they were struck by a car. they were taken to the hospital and it does not appear that their injuries are life threatening. the driver did stop and is cooperating with police. there is a one day strike to protest concessions that they say management is demanding. this will be the sixth strike and a series of strikes. they're upset about contracts that are under negotiation for about 18 months. this walkout is supp
NBC
Nov 30, 2012 6:00am PST
conditions. if you're heading to southern california through the central valley or northern california, you'll have to get through really rough weather. we have isolated thunderstorms from stockton to brentwood. livermore also getting isolated thunderstorms. heavy downpours, gusty winds associated with those. in addition to the very strong sustained winds already taking place across the greater bay area, those winds are going to increase as we head through now to 8:00. that's when we're expecting numerous reports of downed trees to come in because the ground is saturated, the winds are going to increase and battered by that strong wind. we could see some very significant damage. i just want to point this tout to you, this is not our only day of rainfall. i'm going to time out the next system in your bufull forecast t you have to keep in mind we already have 1 to 2 inches already on the ground in parts of the bay area and we'll accumulate another 2 to 3 inches today and sunday's storm, the big one, is going to bring in 2 to 3 additional inches, so flooding is going to stay in the forecast al
ABC
Nov 21, 2012 4:30am PST
weather system will make for tough travel in the northwest and northern california. any flight delays aren't likely to ripple across the country. >> if there were to be a storm in chicago or northeast could you count on mass chaos that does not look like the case. >> reporter: in los angeles, a major airport worker protest will delay travelers there. passengers at l.a.x. are advised to give themselves a three hour cushion and extra 90 anyone's to get there. not everyone will be traveling by air, 39 million are expected to drive. millions of people will be riding the rails today, amtrak adding extra trains on its most crowded corridors borrowing some from canada to handle the holiday crush. problems linger from hurricane sandy including a shortage of rental cars in the northeast the few left are going for hundreds of dollars a day. rob nelson, abc news, new york. >>> 26-year-old murder suspect scheduled to be in court today in san jose believed to be involved in a violent crime spree. jonathan wilbanks was arrested last friday an officer suffered minor injuries in a shootout. wilbanks and a
FOX
Nov 27, 2012 7:00am PST
in that libyan attack has been laid to rest in northern california. a wreath of roses and an american flag are some of the items on chris steven' grave. according to the paper stevens was buried there on friday. he was 52 years old and grew up in piedmont. >>> there is a new study on breast cancer that finds parts of the bay area have much higher rates of invasive breast cancer compared to the rest of california. those areas include the western half of contra costa county. the northern most part of alameda county, an area that runs through alameda, santa clara and san mateo reports. san mateo news reports breast cancer rates in those areas were 10% to 20% higher than the state average from the years 2000 and 2008. breast cancer rates have been a major concern in marin county. >>> well, an iraq war veteran who said he was beaten by police during an occupy protest and needed surgery for a lacerated spleen is suing the alameda county sheriff's office. he claims the alameda county sheriff's office made his injuries worse by denying him medical care after he was arrested and jailed last novembe
ABC
Nov 20, 2012 6:00am PST
in a california park. [ female announcer ] martinelli's gold medal sparkling cider is the perfect choice for holiday gatherings. martinelli's is non-alcoholic, festive like champagne, and tastes great! martinelli's: since 1868. >>> welcome back. live doppler you can see heavy drizzle showing up on live doppler 7 hd the reason why we have two hour and 43 minute flight arrival delays into sfo that extends into bay bridge, treasure island, yerba buena island into marin county. this is going to be the case today with moist southerly want we could have drizzle any time during the morning to light rain in the north bay. i still think our best chance of steadier rain will be in the north bay the west of -- the rest of us could have sprinkles to scattered light rain during the afternoon our steadier rain starting during the evening and overnight today in the 60s. >>> bay bridge toll, metering lights just turned on, wind advisory for the cantilever section westbound you can see delays past the first overcrossing towards san francisco. westbound highway 4 port chicago slow traffic accident blockin
CBS
Nov 8, 2012 6:00pm PST
in these red books could be among the first three strikers in california to be released under the newly passed proposition 36. >> this county was pro active because as the district attorney, i supported proposition 36. >> reporter: district attorney jeff rosen got ahead of the curve and began compiling the list even before the votes were cast. >> i thought that reforming the "three strikes" law in this way would make the punishment fit the crime. >> reporter: santa clara county has 550 three strikes cases where inmates are serving sentences of 25 years to life in prison. of those, the d.a. determined 118 cases are eligible for early release under prop 36. they are cases that involve nonviolent offenders who have been already served as many as 10 years in prison. >> a typical fact pattern being prior burglary offenses and the new offense being drug possession or petty theft or writhing a bad check. >> reporter: this man supports prop 36 because it refocuses three strikes on the violent offenders. >> it's more fair because sometimes it takes people a while to learn from their mistakes and the la
FOX
Nov 23, 2012 5:00am PST
of an inmate at the santa cruz county jail. >>> plus a $55 year holiday tradition in southern california is caught in a controversy. why the courts are getting involved. >>> also you can wake up with ktvu every morning. get the morning top stories that developed while you were asleep sent straight to your cell phone every weekday morning at 6:00 a.m.. get your ktvu morning wake up call by texting the word wakeup to 70123. [ laughter ] [ girl ] wow, you guys have it easy. i wish i had u-verse when i was your age. in my day, we didn't have these fancy wireless receivers. blah blah blah. if i had a sleepover, i couldn't just move the tv into the playroom. no. we had to watch movies in the den because that's where the tv outlet was. and if dad was snoring on the couch, we muscled through it. is she for real? your generation has it made. [ male announcer ] the wireless receiver only from at&t u-verse. get a free wireless receiver with a qualifying u-verse plan. rethink possible. >>> welcome back. time now 5:23. 50 inmates have been sickened by carbon monoxide poisoning. this happened wednesda
ABC
Nov 23, 2012 5:00am PST
in the 20s. yosemite, 64 today and tomorrow, 61 sunday. southern california where going to be warmest, 80s today and tomorrow in l.a., 74 back to average sunday, mid 70s today in san diego, tomorrow upper 60s by sunday. >>> nice quiet drive southbound 101 out of marin, southern marin up and over the waldo grade, sausalito through the tunnel to the golden gate bridge, three lanes southbound, two lanes northbound. it is light traffic there. into the city on bay bridge nice drive, know problems on upper deck, no metering lights, one incident in redwood city on surface streets whipple as you come off 101 with an accident blocking intersection. >>> 5:54. part of is flash flood's ocean beach is still closed -- part of san francisco's ocean beach is still closed following wednesday's sewage spill. pedestrians can still walk along the promenade or go near the water's edge the spill was likely caused by heavy rains and high tide which causes sewage to overflow into the streets the water is again, not the smell. no word on when the area will be declared safe for visitors. >>> cash is king, not for l
KRON
Nov 28, 2012 7:00am PST
that offers city to city services for about a dollar is expanding to california. it will allow you go from oakland california san jose and san francisco to los angeles. also sacramento and the reno sparks area as well. they cam but " cal for a trip starting today but they do not actually start running until december 12th. the company will be offering trips where dollar transfer its first week of service. >> will be back with more of the team coverage of the storm in just a couple of minutes. rainy and windy and the bay area. a live look at the other summit and they still have fairly clear skies. this is all goodness for skiing. we always look for more snow than add to those totals since a lot of resorts opened early. they are already up and running. we will be right back. [ laughter ] [ girl ] wow, you guys have it easy. i wish i had u-verse when i was your age. in my day, we didn't have these fancy wireless receivers. blah blah blah. if i had a sleepover, i couldn't just move the tv into the playroom. no. we had to watch movies in the den because that's where the tv outlet was. and if dad
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